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Marshal Friday, VP of Sales at STARC Systems

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Ian Thiele Ian Thiele Interviewer Ian has been mastering sales since his college days working the Costco Membership desk. Today, he helps sales teams scale their outbound process from the comfort of his Herman Miller chair. When he's not optimizing pipelines, he's grinding to get his golf handicap down to a 10. Connect on LinkedIn
Marshall Friday Marshall Friday Guest Marshall Friday is the VP of Sales at STARC Systems, where he leads a national field sales team selling temporary wall solutions into healthcare, aviation, and data center construction. He's been in sales since age 15 writing names on grains of rice at SeaWorld, and has since built a career, and a personal brand, around the simple tagline: I Sell Walls. Connect on LinkedIn

Marshall Friday has been selling since he was 15, writing names on grains of rice at SeaWorld for 25 cents a pop. Today he's the VP of Sales at STARC Systems, leading a national team that sells reusable temporary walls to some of the largest construction companies in the country. Ian sat down with Marshall to talk personal branding, in-person sales, lunch and learn conversion rates, and why the most important skill in any sales role is something no one is born with.

Ian Thiele
Ian, Interviewer
You started selling at 15, writing names on grains of rice at SeaWorld. How does that even work, and how did it hook you on sales?
Marshall Friday
Marshall Friday, Guest
There's a specific type of pen called a rapidograph used for architectural drafting. You push the grain of rice into molding clay so it doesn't move, then you literally get ink out of the tip of the pen and write on it freehand. No magnifying glass. The lady who trained me showed me once, said "it's pretty easy," and that was it. Training done. We put the rice in a glass vial with baby oil to preserve the ink, added SeaWorld beads, and sold it as a necklace. Twenty-five cents commission per sale. I was 15 years old and I realized: I can make as much money as I want if I sell things. That was it. I was hooked. 💡 The moment you realize your income is tied to your effort, not a clock, everything changes.

Ian Thiele
Ian, Interviewer
You went from individual contributor to sales leader at 25. What was the hardest part of that transition, especially when some of your best friends were on the team?
Marshall Friday
Marshall Friday, Guest
I had convinced four or five of my best friends to come work with me, and four of them were in my wedding. When I got promoted, I had to sit them down and say: outside of this place, nothing changes. But while we're here, you have to hit the number, because I can't show you any favoritism. Other reps are going to walk past my office, see your face in my wedding photo, and wonder why you're still here if you're not at plan. Fortunately, they all hit 100% and helped coach others. But what that transition also taught me is that once you become a leader, your blinders come off. You see the whole team, and you realize: wait, not everyone was working as hard as I was. Getting a new leader to accept that there are ten different ways to skin the cat, and that their way isn't the only way, that's one of the most fun things I get to watch happen. 💡 The hardest part of becoming a leader isn't the new responsibilities. It's unlearning that your way is the only way.

Ian Thiele
Ian, Interviewer
What's the scrappiest thing you've ever done to close a deal or get someone to stop and talk to you?
Marshall Friday
Marshall Friday, Guest
Back at SeaWorld. Our stand was right outside the Shamu show. When the last show of the night ended, every family who had been walking a theme park in 105-degree South Texas heat just wanted to get to the parking lot. So my friend and I would walk out into the middle of the pathway, pretend we had earpieces, and say, "Yeah, yeah, I just got a call from security. They're asking everyone to stay here until the show finishes so they can control traffic." Confusion, frustration, all of it. Then I'd tap the earpiece again and say, "Actually, if you come over and buy your name on a grain of rice, we'll let you go to the parking lot early." Some people cursed at us. Some laughed. But every week there were one or two who said, ah, we did walk by earlier, let's take a look. I was selling a $13 trinket, but I was learning to have zero fear talking to strangers. I think that's why today I can walk into a room with a multi-billion dollar general contractor and say anything. 💡 Build your sales courage early. The reps with no fear in the enterprise started somewhere embarrassing.

Ian Thiele
Ian, Interviewer
Your LinkedIn tagline is "I Sell Walls" and you wear Hawaiian shirts to every trade show. How intentional is that personal brand, and does it actually help you sell to massive GCs?
Marshall Friday
Marshall Friday, Guest
Completely intentional. I've been running this persona for about five years now. I'm 6'5" with a beard wearing a Hawaiian shirt, so I'm already hard to miss. But the brand goes beyond the shirt. At trade shows, people walk up to me who I've never met, who aren't in my LinkedIn connections, who have been lurking my content for months without ever liking a post, and they say, "You're the guy that sells walls?" Yes. That's me. And the tagline isn't just LinkedIn. It's the first thing I say when someone asks what I do. "I sell walls." Always leads to a question. Always gets me to the pitch. And honestly, I still feel weird saying "VP of Sales." It feels like title-dropping. I'd rather just tell you what I do and let the conversation go from there. 💡 A sticky personal brand gets you conversations before you ever open your mouth. Build one worth remembering.

Ian Thiele
Ian, Interviewer
In-person vs. phone and email for construction sales. Where does the real selling actually happen for your team?
Marshall Friday
Marshall Friday, Guest
In-person is what drives our sales success, but email and phone are what get us there. Our emails are almost entirely educational. We're not asking for anything. We're sending videos of the product working on projects near them, how-to content for customers who already own some of our lines but not all four. Then we track who opened the email five times, who clicked the link ten times, and we make the phone calls to those people. Still not putting them into a sales motion on that call. We're offering a lunch and learn: can we come out, bring the product, show you how it works? The light bulb goes off in person in a way it never does over the phone. Our conversion from lunch and learn to a quotable opportunity is north of 70%. And the goal at the end of every lunch and learn is either: can you think of a project you could use this on, send me the floor plans and I'll quote it, or, is there a project nearby I can just walk with you? 💡 Email educates. Phone qualifies. In person closes. Know which motion you're in at every step.

Ian Thiele
Ian, Interviewer
What are the top objections you face selling STARC walls, and how does your team handle them?
Marshall Friday
Marshall Friday, Guest
Three main ones. First: we didn't win the bid. That's mostly out of our control, so the play is to make sure we've bid every contractor competing for that project, so no matter who wins, STARC still wins. Second: your product costs five times more than drywall. We overcome that with reusability. Sure it does, but use it 50 times and it's now 10% of the cost. Third: storage. I love your product but where do I put 200 feet of walls between projects? That one we solved by partnering with Sunbelt Rentals. Now customers can rent instead of buy, the cost comes down, and Sunbelt picks up the walls when the project is done. We've tried to build a system where the objection isn't a dead end, it's a door we've already built a handle for. 💡 The best objection handlers don't think on their feet. They've already built the door before the customer finds the wall.

Ian Thiele
Ian, Interviewer
Someone fresh out of high school or college comes to you and says they want to sell walls. What do you tell them?
Marshall Friday
Marshall Friday, Guest
Be a relentless prospector. That's it. That spans every role I've ever had, from SeaWorld to retail to door-to-door to enterprise to construction. No matter how strong the brand name is, no matter how many leads the company promises you, no successful salesperson gets to where they are without relentlessly prospecting. It's a simple concept. Pick up the phone. Send the email. Go out in the field. Simple concept, not easy to execute, because it's a grind every single day. The ability to close is something some people have naturally, but it can also be taught. Work ethic can't be taught. That's the one thing that makes people successful in sales, and the one thing you have to prove you've got if you want to come sell walls. 💡 Closing can be taught. Work ethic can't. Hire prospectors first, everything else is coachable.
A sticky personal brand opens doors before you say a word. "I Sell Walls" and a Hawaiian shirt at a trade show gets strangers walking up to Marshall who have been following his content for months without ever engaging. Distinctive beats polished every time.
In-person wins, but email and phone build the runway. STARC's lunch and learn conversion rate is north of 70%. They get there by tracking email opens and click behavior, calling the engaged leads, and offering education, not a pitch. The close happens in the room with the product in hand.
Closing can be taught. Work ethic can't. Marshall has seen it across every role from SeaWorld to enterprise to construction. The salespeople who make it aren't the most naturally gifted. They're the ones who prospect relentlessly, every single day, regardless of how good the lead flow looks on paper.

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